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Envisioning A Better Tomorrow: A conversation with Marco Pavé

It’s hard to throw a digital rock online without hitting a list featuring anywhere from 5 to 500 artists poised to make a big splash on the music industry at large in 2016. We have picks of our own, which will make themselves known through the content we run in coming weeks, but we are always looking for even more new talent to discover. Having a good song or two is nice, but those who truly wish to make it in the modern age need more than a hook and melody to succeed. Artists today need to be self-motivated, confident without being cocky, and above all forward-thinking. They need to disregard the path to success others have paved and find a way to lift themselves, as well as others in their genre, out of the muck of obscurity.

As far as we are concerned, few independent musicians are doing more to make a difference in the world today than Marco Pavé, a fast rising hip-hop artist from Memphis, TN. Pavé has yet to have a hit single on national radio, but he has already given a TED talk on the importance of socially conscious music and developed a dedicated online following that wouldn’t think twice to promote his latest creations. For Marco, success is best when it aides the people around him as much as it does himself, and it’s that desire to see his entire community rise up that is helping establish his presence in the art world.

We recently had the opportunity to chat with Marco about his life and career, as well as where he hopes to find himself in the future. You can find highlights from our conversation below.

Haulix: Hello, Marco. Thank you for taking a few minutes to speak with us. How is the day treating you so far?

Marco: Hey! Thanks for having me! It’s going pretty good, things are picking up pretty well for me; so staying busy is always good.

H: Your most recent EP, Perception, dropped about two months ago. How has the response been so far?

Marco: Yes, time is flying on that project! The response has been very great. My EP debuted at #24 on the CMJ charts and quickly made it way to the top 10 and eventually to #2 most recently. My EP has been featured on sites like The Source, That’s Enuff, Soul Train, BlkDmnds, and many more. The paper of record in Memphis, The Commercial Appeal named my EP as one of the best records on the year in Memphis. I am a blessed that 5 songs have been this critically acclaimed.

H: Do you have goals in mind for each release? If so, what did you hope to accomplish with the release of ‘Perception’?

Marco: Yes. I have specific goals for everything that I do, especially with a project. I always want to increase my fanbase when I release new music. I feel like that was one of my main goals for this project. I have rapidly grown from the local Memphis scene and my music and project goals need to reflect that. I also wanted to accomplish the goal of telling my story and not giving a dam what anyone had to say about it.

H: The single, “Black Tux,” has been on repeat in our offices for about three months at this point. I think we first caught it on when The Source ran it back in September. I know a lot of aspiring rappers struggle to catch the attention of any blogger, let along the major publications. To what do you attribute your ability to stay on the radar of industry critics big and small?

Marco: I am blessed first and foremost, not in some kinda I am divinely guided type of way but I am just blessed to be here being respected by these major publications after making if from what I’ve made it through! I am all about networking, I know these publications are not some entity that can’t be tapped into, they have writers that are humans just like me. It’s just about reaching out and waiting for something to pop. I now also have an amazing publicist that gets me a lot of great looks.

H: Memphis was once considered a hotbed for rap talent, though it has been a little while since your city produced a major star. How would you describe the local music scene right now, and how has it changed in recent years?

Marco: It depends on what you consider a major star, it’s been some great guys coming out of Memphis lately. IheartMemphis, with Hit the Quan has taken the world by storm with his dancem Young Dolph is increasingly popping up on urban radio with features from 2 Chainz, T.I, and Gucci Mane, and Yo Gotti hasn’t lost any steam in the last 10 years. He is responsible for the careers of Snottie Wild and Blac Youngsta. A lot of times Memphis artists get their city identity stolen by Atlanta because it’s a hotbed for Hip Hop right now and Memphis doesn’t have much of a music industry to compete. But the local scene in Memphis is strong right now with artists like Preauxx, Jon Waltz, Casher, Xavier Wulf, Hippy Soul, Zane Rigo and Tayy the Pro to just name a few. The industry has changed a lot here in Memphis because so many people move away to pursue their goals on larger level.

H: Let’s take it back to the beginning. When did you first start rapping, and when did you start to realize you could really do something with your talent?

Marco: Man, I have been making music for a while now. I haven’t always been making the best quality music; I was accustomed to recording on whatever was available. I have been making music for about 12 years now. I got started when my friends and me were in the cafeteria of Volletine Elementary in Memphis, Tennessee. We used to beat on the tables and make up raps on the spot. That transitioned to my friends and I recording music on the tape player that I stole from my dad’s room, and now I am making records on my album 12 years later. I realized I had the talent to make it happen early on.

H: Have you had a moment in your career where you’ve felt like you’ve ‘made it’ in any way? If so, what was it?

Marco: I don’t really have those moments because I haven’t made a million dollars yet (laughs). But seriously I do, when I wake up everyday and think back to where I used to be as a PERSON, not just an artist, I’ve made it. The fact that I can just sit up and respond to emails and do interviews and give talks about hip hop all are signs of making it to me. There are still a ways to go, but I am proud of what I’ve been able to do.

H: I’ve read quotes where you claim to make your music for everyone, and that you love to blend genres/styles whenever possible. Who is currently influencing your work?

Marco: Man I’ve been going back stepping away from contemporary music a bit, I’ve been listening to John Coltrane, Nina Simone, Frank, Harry Bellafonte and more. I want to be able to stretch a song like these amazing jazz artists, everything was an instrument, even their voices.

H: As much as we love your music, we’re also pretty taken by your concern for your local community. To what do you attribute your continued passion for seeing your city thrive?

Marco: Man, I am from this city. If I did like everyone else who goes from poor to the middle class and forget about all the people in the struggle then that defeats the purpose. I want to build the city to be better even when we are all gone. I can do my part through music for now.

H: Has giving back always been part of your music career?

Marco: It hasn’t always been apart of my career, but I can say, once I focused on more than groupies, and being in the club trying to get laid, my career changed for the better.

H: You were able to present a TED talk last year on how hiphop saved your life. Can you tell us a bit about that experience and what, if anything, has developed from it in the months since your appearance?

Marco: That experience was great! I was actually invited to do two Ted talks and both of them are things that I will have in my arsenal for a long time. I have gotten some major press from my first ted talk from The Source Magazine, to Soul Train. The Root even named me as one of the 17 unsung heroes of Black Lives Matter. Having two Ted talks under my belt is a great way to push my career forward outside of just making music.

H: Looking to the future, what goals do you have for both your music and your philanthropy?

Marco: For my music, my first goal is to get my debut album out, tour from the success of my EP, and then eventually get into European tours. For my philanthropy, if I can even call it that, I just want my platform to be large enough to help entire families pay for college, start a business, pay off loans, etc. I don’t want to give and increase the idea of poverty; I want to BREAK the idea of poverty.

H: Speaking to those goals, what are the biggest hurdles standing in your way?

Marco: The biggest hurdles standing in my way music wise is the local industry in Memphis, there is none! Especially for hip-hop artists, those artists that I named earlier are all either leaving Memphis or have left Memphis to build connects in LA and ATL, so in order to do anything very long term I need to find connections in other places and try to build everything I need from the ground up. And for the philanthropy, I am just not rich yet (laughs).

H: If you could offer one piece of advice to aspiring musicians reading this now, what would you say?

Marco: Never give up! But don’t hopelessly dream and hope, you have to plan; you have to build your team. Most importantly you have read and study the game, there are so many books out there about copyrights, publishing, touring and everything else that indie artist need to learn about.

H: We wish you the best of luck in everything, Marco. Before we let you go, are there any final comments or plugs you would like to share?

Marco: Thank you so much for having me! This was a great interview; I love a publication that does their research. For everyone out there reading please follow me on all social media @KingofMarco, and visit my website at KingofMarco.com

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Inside Music Podcast #58: Jonathan Diener (The Swellers)

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell calls Jonathan Diener of The Swellers to discuss a charity compilation the two are creating to help the people of Flint, Michigan. The issues plaguing the citizens of Flint go deeper than bad water, though that problem is one in need of immediate resolution, and during their Chat Jono and James outline numerous ways you, the listener, can do you part and help those in need. For more information the crisis in flint, visit www.facebook.com/notsafetodrink

The music you hear in this episode is “Like You Do” (Acoustic) from Taking Back Sunday. The song, which is available now if you know where to look, will appear on the Not Safe To Drink: Music For Flint Water Crisis Relief.

You may already know this, but ‘Inside Music’ is now available on iTunes! Click here to subscribe.

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BLOGGERS: Challenge Yourself All Month Long With This Music Writer Exercise

Our pal Gary Suarez developed a great exercise for music writers in early 2015 that has since been resurrected for February 2016. We plan to participate and hope the rest of you will as well. Here are the rules:

Each day in February, listen to 1 full album you’ve never heard, from start to finish. Once complete, write one tweet about the album you just heard and tag it with #MWE so others can follow your efforts. 

You can choose any album you wish, but if you’re stumped please do not hesitate to ask us and other for recommendations. In fact, we may post some on here just in case.

Are you in?

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Monday Motivation: Aiden (2003-2016)

If you’re anything like me, you probably started the day by recognizing that the start of a new work week had indeed arrived and then immediately began shaking your fists at the sky in anger. Monday is rarely anyone’s favorite day, and from what I have seen firsthand it feels safe to say it’s the one day of the week some people outright hate. I guess to them the arrival of the work week symbolizes the end of their quote/unquote freedom, and as a result they head into the office/factory/restaurant/store with a negative outlook already on their mind. This leads to bad attitudes, which only makes the experience of being at work worse, and for some reason it also seems to make time slow to a crawl. We’re not about that life, and we hope this post can do the same you that the song contained within it did for us.

For more than a decade the members of Aiden have been empowering outcast youth around the globe with anthems of life, death, love, every emotion in between. Their music, forever rooted in the more aggressive side of punk, has brought many back from the ledge and given a voice to thousands, if not millions who live each and every day feeling as if no one cares they exist. In a time when it seems every band is forcing silver linings into their music the men of Aiden have chosen to embrace the fact our planet is often a cold place. That honesty, coupled with the raw emotion bursting from every note of the art they create, has provided strength to the weak in ways no other form of nutrition could hope to offer.

Last night, 4785 miles from the city they call home, the members of Aiden took their final bow on stage in front of a packed venue somewhere in London, England. It was a moment captured immediately across various social media platforms and later further celebrated through numerous additional posts made by band members and fans alike, but still it feels under-appreciated. In fact, everything the band has accomplished up to this point feels surprisingly overlooked by the music industry at large. The reasons for this are likely far too numerous to name, I’m sure, but the band’s horror-tinged imagery and hard punk sound certainly haven’t helped to make them a household name. Then again, I don’t think they care about things like that, and that is precisely why I love everything they represent.

I first discovered Aiden when their debut album, Nightmare Anatomy, was being promoted through listening stations at Hot Topic stores across the country. A sticker on the packaging for the record claimed the band was for fans of AFI and My Chemical Romance, which was everything I needed to know to give the record a chance. While I still believe that comparison was legitimate, at least for that particular record, what I discovered when I first spun the actual recording was something far more special than just another so-called ‘dark’ alternative act. The immediacy in vocalist Will Francis’ voice pulled me in from the opening notes of “Knife Blood Nightmare” and did not let go until the closer, “See You In Hell,” was over. While that first play moved from track to track I found myself becoming immersed in a world of thoughts and ideas that mirrored my own vision of the world. For the first time in my life a band was saying what I thought and felt without sugar-coating harsh realities for those unwilling to accept the truth. It was everything I didn’t know I wanted, and by the time I was three songs deep I was begging my mother to buy the CD.

As time progressed so did Aiden, and by the time their Sophomore record was ready for release the band had moved away from the in your face sound of their debut. Some were turned off by the results, but I was not among them. That record, entitled Conviction, remains my favorite in the band’s catalog. I remember reading an interview ahead of the album’s release where Francis claimed writing the record had helped him to understand the true meaning of punk. He explained that the idea of being punk and making punk music was not limited to a single sound or style. Being punk, in his opinion, was a state of mind that could be applied to anything one chooses to spend their life doing. You could be a punk pianist playing for thousands at Carnegie Hall or the guy screaming until his throat bleeds in a dingy rock club five nights a week. Neither one is better than the other, so why should Aiden or anyone else limit themselves to being just one thing? Francis understood that he and his bandmate could do anything they wanted as long as they remained true to themselves, and that same idea has been the guiding force for my own journey in life ever since.

More albums came as the years carried on, and each offered listeners a different side of Aiden without ever sacrificing the punk ethos that lie at the heart of the group’s best material. Listeners came and went depending on how each evolution took form, but the members of the band never seemed to let the size of a crowd or the number of records sold impact what came next. After all, why should they? Aiden didn’t form to please the world at large. If anything, the entire reason the band exists would appear to be to serve as opposition to the norm. Be it rock, punk, alternative, pop, country, or even EDM, Aiden refused to fall in line with whatever was popular in the moment to further focus on better expressing themselves and their beliefs. Through doing so the band taught their fans to do the same, to shake off any pre-conceived notions of what life is supposed to look like or be like and to fully embrace the person they believe themselves to be. Without Aiden I would not have grown to be the man I am today, and with their time as a band now passed I don’t know if I will ever have a proper opportunity to thank them for that. What I can do, however, is tell others how much they did for me in hopes they too might find strength in the music the band made.

This week, whether you’re a longtime fan or first-time listener, put on the music of Aiden and allow yourself to break free of whatever it is in life that is holding you back from being the person you want to become. Embracing your true self is rarely an easy task, but it is an accomplishment that is entirely worth the effort required. 


James Shotwell is the Marketing Coordinator for Haulix. He is also a professional entertainment critic, covering both film and music, as well as the co-founder of Antique Records. Feel free to tell him you love or hate the article above by connecting with him on Twitter. Bonus points if you introduce yourself by sharing your favorite Simpsons character.

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