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Industry Spotlight: Jesea Lee (Tragic Hero Records)

Good afternoon, everyone! Thank you for carving out a few minutes in your day to spend with us. We have been looking forward to sharing this feature for several weeks, and we hope you love it as much as we do. Jesea has a great history, and his future is very bright. 

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Jesea Lee is the kind of music industry professional I love to highlight on our blog. So many aspiring entertainment pros believe they have to relocate to one of the coasts in order to be successful, but Jesea is one of many who prove that is no longer the case in 2014. As long as you work hard, stay motivated, and continuously put the needs of others before yourself there is no telling how far you can advance in any endeavor you choose to pursue. That’s what Jesea has done with his love of music, and today he shares his journey with us.

If you would like to learn more about Jesea, as well as his efforts at Tragic Hero, be sure to follow the label on Twitter. Additional questions and comment should be left at the end of this post.

H: Hello! Before we dive in, why don’t you go ahead and introduce yourself to our readers:

J: Hey there, hi there, ho there! My name is Jesea Lee and I’m the publicist for Tragic Hero Music Group.

H: It’s great to have you with us, Jesea. I feel like I’ve known about Tragic Hero for a long time, but I’ve never had a chance to look ‘behind the curtain’ so to say. How is your day going?

J: Not bad! I hope yours is going well. I’m currently working on a bunch of tour press at the moment.

H: Let’s begin we a little bit of your personal history. If you had to pinpoint a specific moment or experience, when would you see you initially fell in love with music?

J: When I was 12 years old I used to skateboard and that was my biggest passion. I would think about skateboading all day. One day at school I was daydreaming about playing guitar and couldn’t wait to get home and learn some new songs. Some friends asked if I wanted to go skate after school and I remember just thinking that I’d rather go home and play guitar. That’s when I realized music was my new passion and nothing has replaced it since. It’s a silly story, but that’s honestly the moment I realized how much I liked music because I chose it over what I believed to be my biggest passion at the time

H: Do you remember the first album you purchased with your own money? How about the format?

J: It was a Blues Traveler CD. I bought it specifically for a certain song, but didn’t know the name of it. My parents didn’t have the internet, so I couldn’t just google the lyrics to find the title. I took a guess and bought “Save His Soul”…and it ended up being the wrong one. I ended up loving that album, though.

H: First concert? Bonus points if you share an early story of fandom.

J: Cold and Evanescence. Completely random because I’m not a fan of either band, ha. My first fandom moment would probably be seeing Senses Fail in Cleveland. I met Buddy Nielsen (vocalist) outside after the show and totally “fangirled.”

H: Most people do not immediately connect their passion for music to the idea of working on the business side of the industry. Did you ever try your hand at being a musician? Did you chase the rockstar dream before turning your eyes toward business?

J: I sure did. I’ve been in bands since I first picked up a guitar when I was 12. I’ve toured, put out records, and have been lucky enough to do a lot of things that most musicians won’t get to do. I think all those experiences makes it easier for me to empathize with the artists I work with.

H: I mentioned Tragic Hero early on, but you’ve had a few roles in music up to this point and I want to cover everything I am able. From what I found, you studied Music Business at Cuyahoga Community College. Is that a program you would recommend to others seeking a little more guidance on the music business?

J: I’m not sure how much I really retained and use from that program because I felt like it wasn’t as in depth as it could have been. Also, I felt like it may have been a little outdated. I still think any extra education is great, though.

H: Do you think college/higher education is something all aspiring industry professionals should seek out?

J: I don’t really endorse getting a really expensive degree that you have to spend the majority of your life to pay back just because you think that’s what you’re supposed to do, but I do think if it’s financially reasonable and it’s actually something that you’re gonna use then why the hell not? To that end, I would say I’ve learned waaaaay more about the music business from real life experience.

H: Around this time you also landed your position with Tragic Hero Records, which as many know is owned by Tommy Lacombe. Can you tell us a bit about how you learned of the position and shed some light on the interview process?

J: I spent the time after college pretending to be a rock star basically, ha. In 2010, I met the Business manager of Tragic Hero through a mutual friend and it wasn’t until 2013 that I approached him about a job with the company. It took about six months of talking and interviewing before I secured the position.

H: Once you secured the gigs you have no, your free time had to be pretty limited. How do you keep everything balanced while still making time to relax?

J: Work-life balance is almost virtually impossible in our generation. Your bosses and clients can reach you any time, day and night. One of the things I like to do is leave my phone in the locker when I’m working out. Nothing can mess up a good set more than an email from a writer rejecting your pitch. Things like that can wait until after I get my pump on, ha.

H: With that in mind, would you please walk us through a typical day of work for you?

J: I usually spend the first hour catching up on emails that came in while I was sleeping. That also involves sending links of new coverage to artists/management. Then I make a schedule for the remainder of my day. For example, 10-11 “X BAND” tour press, 11-12 “Y BAND” tour press, 12-1 “Z BAND” album press, etc. It almost NEVER goes according to schedule, though. There’s always something that pops up that need to be taken care right then and there, but the schedule is definitely a nice starting point.

H: What is the greatest lesson about publicity/A&R that you have learned in the two years since your professional journey began to take off?

J: Persistence and follow-up is key. It seems like every time I think “I hope this second follow-up email doesn’t annoy this person” that’s the one that they respond to.

H: If you could offer one piece of advice to people reading this who may be considering the pursuit of a career in entertainment, what would you say?

J: Network, network, network. That’s really the sole reason I am where I am right now …..that and my good looks ;). The entertainment business is really tough to break into and you won’t often see a craigslist saying “Record Label Seeks Publicist,” so you need to get out there and create opportunities.

H: Piracy is something we fight on a daily basis here at Haulix, but there are many young people who do not grasp how leaks can impact labels and the artists on them. Can you shed some light on your anti-piracy efforts at Tragic Hero, and how unwanted distribution of your copyrighted materials hurts the music business?

J: At the risk of sounding like I’m pandering, I use Haulix everyday. That’s the absolute best platform out there right now for protecting music. Leaking an album early and can really destroy any momentum that a label/artist is trying to build up. Leaking music is exceptionally annoying to me because most of the time these people who are leaking albums aren’t doing it because they love the band, they just want to be the ones that leaked it first. It’s like a game to them and their ignorance can have an adverse effect on people’s lives.

H: If you had to guess, where is Jesea Lee in five years?

J: Going down a giant slide made of Laffy Taffy into a pool of money! Honestly though, I love being a publicist and working in the music business, so that’s where I see myself in five years.

H: What are your current career goals, and more importantly – what hurdles are preventing you from reaching them?

J: My current career goals are pretty simple. To get as much press and exposure for my artists as possible. The only thing preventing me from reaching them would be writers not responding, ha!

H: Okay, I think that is all I have for right now. Before I let you go, are there any final thoughts or observations that you would like to share with our readers?

J: Dream big, live bigger.

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Industry Spotlight: Jason McMahon (Substream Magazine)

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the first Industry Spotlight of the week. The following feature has been in the works since mid-February, and has been the topic of several request emails since at least November 2013. We do our best to speak with everyone you hope to learn from as soon as their names come up, but scheduling is often a tricky proposition. If you would like to learn more about the efforts of this blog, or if you would like a tour of our servicing platform, please do not hesitate to contact james@haulix.com. We can also be found on Twitter and Facebook.

It is rare that more than a month or two passes without another print publication going digital or shutting down entirely, but as we will today there are still people in the publishing industry who believe in the future of physical products.

Jason McMahon is not the first person you expect to meet when you meet the owner of Substream Magazine. He does not consider himself much of a journalist, and even though he went to college twice he never once majored in anything related to the publishing world. He actually had no idea what he wanted to be when he began his post high school journey, but fate first placed him in the medical field before eventually turning Jason’s focus to the world of music production.

Following a second stint in college, Jason took an internship in New York and left Ohio to pursue his music industry ambitions. One gig lead to another, and over the course of several years he found himself back in Ohio. This time, however, Jason had a partner in creative endeavors, and together the two launched Substream Magazine as a way to expand their horizons in the music business. Jason took on full ownership a few years after that, which is the position he holds to this day.

As someone who has spent the entirety of their career writing online, I am always a bit more excited than usual for interviews when the opportunity to speak to someone working in print comes along. The battle to maintain a physical presence in a world with an ever-increasing demand for digital access has claimed many great business, but Substream has survived and even thrived.

I spoke with Jason about his history in music, as well as the origin of Substream, but when our conversation really took off is when I approached the topic of the magazine’s plans for the future. While others are running from print, Substream is hoping to maintain their physical presence for as long as they are able. They see a value in the way people engage with their physical product that can not be duplicated when fingers dance across the glass surface of smartphones, and they are doing whatever it takes to nurture that value for the foreseeable future.

If you would like to learn more about Jason and his efforts with the Substream Magazine team, be sure to bookmark Substream’s official website and follow the company on Twitter. Additional questions and comments can be left at the end of this post.

H: To begin, please tell everyone your full name and the publication you’re here to discuss:

J: My name is Jason McMahon, owner of Substream Magazine.

H: Thank you again for joining us.

J: Thanks for having me.

H: I’m curious, when did music become more than an interest in your life?

J: I was always really into music, but I didn’t really take any interest from an instrument standpoint until high school. That is when I picked up the guitar and I think it was through playing that I developed a different appreciation for it, and better insight. I started paying attention to the music itself and not the song as a whole.

I also became a huge fan of going to shows, finding new music, discussing new music, and those kinds of scenarios. Like every high school senior, however, I had know idea what I wanted to do with myself when I graduated. I went to college because I thought that is what you were supposed to do and found I really enjoyed the medical field.

Graduation came and I found work at a hospital in Columbus, Ohio. A little later in my twenties I realized that I wanted and kind of needed to do more music stuff. I noticed I had developed an interest and attraction to recording, so I returned to school for music production and as soon as I graduated took a job at a recording studio in New York City.

That kind of kicked off my music career, really. I left the medical field and never looked back. Working at the studio turned into working at an independent label, which turned into working on various projects in Nashville. It was during this time that I met the kid who would eventually become my partner in the magazine. We kicked it off, I bought him out three years later, and just recently revamped the magazine.

I think I got a little carried away there, but yea, that is how Substream came to be.

H: That’s perfectly fine. Giving us the whole story up front makes it easier to talk about other topics. You mentioned leaving the medical field for music. Can you pinpoint the moment in life when you realized music was the business for you?

J: When I was working at the hospital there were a couple other guys I knew who were into music. One of them brought up the fact you could go to school for sound engineering and recording, which I really did not know at the time. I think a lot kids are geared towards and told to do certain things. Law school, medical school, and so on. Counselors do not sit them down and ask, “What’s your passion?” They don’t always have someone willing to help them find something in life that interests them and show them how to make a career out of it.

So, I was working at the hospital and this guy told me about this program for music production. I loved my job at the hospital, but the more I thought about it I realized that going back to school for music was for me.

I don’t regret what I did in my early career though. I loved it, and when I look back now I still do.

H: Music production was where your interests lied originally, but you now work in the journalism field. When did the world of writing come into the picture for you?

J: It really never did to be completely honest with you. I always looked at Substream as a springboard to bigger and better things in the music industry. I love working with bands, working with labels, bringing people together, and setting things up, but to actually sit down and write something was never really a passion of mine. Substream was more something that would allow me to exercise the things I enjoy about the music industry while allowing our writers and photographers do their thing. I have done a few articles and I do enjoy it, but it is not my forte. I am more into the business end of things and finding bands. That is what I enjoy.

H: Interesting. Can you tell us a little about the early years of Substream and how you, as someone who recognizes your own skills lie outsides of writing, went about building your team of editors and contributors?

J: That was back in the MySpace days, when we were just getting started. We had a really good following on social networks and we sought out fans to contribute to our efforts. We were a magazine that was produced by fans of music for fans of music, so we were not looking for high quality, outstanding journalists, we just wanted young people who were passionate about the music we were covering. As we started putting out phone calls and messages via MySpace we began receiving feedback from people who wanted to help us create conten. At that point our jobs became weeding out the good from the bad, and we built our team that way. It’s probably a strange method, but it’s literally what we did.

We started in central Ohio as well, and we know a lot of people in the area who were willing to help us out.

H: How large is the Substream team today?

J: We probably have, on average, a team of 25-30 contributors from all over the world. It’s really pretty cool.

H: Do you actively seek new writers?

J: We don’t really have to seek new people, they tend to find us. We get a lot of messages from aspiring writers and college students who are looking for work. They send us stories and portfolios, which we review, and if looks good we will follow up.

H: I’ve noticed that you guys also have internships available. Can you tell us a bit about what interns do at Substream?

J: If you’re located in the Columbus (Ohio) area, our interns will meet with us once a week and do a variety of tasks. They will go to shows and pass out magazine, help out on social sites, run contests. If any are aspiring journalists we will try and find content for them to work on. It’s really about finding where the individual intern can help us best. We have one intern who helps us edit. She does not want to go to shows all the time or write articles necessarily, but she has an interest in editing.

Our interns do a little bit of everything.

H: What advice would you offer someone aspiring to become a professional in the music industry?

J: Be prepared to be broke for a while. You have to pay your dues. The best advice I can offer someone pursuing a college degree right now with an interest in this industry is to run out an find internships that you are passionate about. That is where I got my start and it’s where I learned a lot about how the business works.

H: Substream is one of the few music publications still in print. You probably get this all the time, but do you plan to keep making a physical magazine for the foreseeable future?

J: Yes. I think having a print edition of anything is far more enjoyable than reading something off a device, like an iPad for example. They are two different experiences, and there are pros to each. The digital side of things keeps you from having to carry around a stack of book, and it also allows for a lot of interactivity, which is great.

But I think to actually have a physical copy in your hands. To see and to have that product on the shelf in a store where someone has to make a true effort to come in pick it up is pretty special. I think that we will always put out a print magazine. I just hope everyone else quits printing, as that seems to be the trend right now. If everyone else wants to stop that is great for us because we know there is value there. I know that when we go out on Warped Tour it’s exciting to see our fans pick up a magazine and flip through it. It’s a different kind of excitement than picking up an iPad and dragging your finger across the screen.

This doesn’t mean we are not going to grow our digital side because we definitely are, it just means that the magazine will adapt and change as needed so that we can continue to print.

H: On that note, how can we expect to see Substream change in the months and years ahead? Is there anything on the horizon you can discuss?

J: We are constantly evolving and reworking our design, and we are also stretching the genres we cover. When we first started out everything was very pop-punk and hardcore-related, but now we are starting to branch out a little bit. We are still covering those scenes, but we are also bringing in some pop, a few alternative acts, and the like. Our focus will always remain on those initial scenes, but we like seeing where the magazine can go.

As far as the company itself, we launched our digital edition on a new platform at the end of last year. I’d also like to launch an app at some point. It’s pretty exciting right now. I have a few ideas on how to diversify what it is Substream does. It’s all music-related, but I would like to see our company grow into more of a multi-level company that does many music things. We’re getting there. Slowly, but surely.

H: You have accomplished a lot with Substream. What are your personal career goals moving forward?

J: I like to start companies and build them, so I would really like to see what we just spoke about coming to fruition. Making Substream a springboard to launch more endeavors. Personally, I would like to get more into the recording side of things. That is where I got my start, and it is where I would like to get back to. Finding bands, signing bands, and help them sell records.

You say personal career goals, but Substream is my life. It all comes back to this, and I am working towards constant growth.

H: Great response. I think that covers everything I have, but before I let you go are there any final thoughts or observations you would like to share with our readers?

J: I think I gave you a quick background on us and how we got to this point. We are seven-years-old now, and to be honest the odds were against us from the start. We have seen magazines like Spin go away and I think we are here to stay the course and create a product music fans want to buy every other month. We are here to stick it out.

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Blogger Spotlight: Drew Beringer (Absolutepunk)

Hello, and welcome another installment of the Haulix Blogger Spotlight series. This time we’re returning to the world of SpinMedia with another look at the alternative music portal that has been leading the online news game for the better part of the last decade.

When most people think of Absolutepunk, they probably associate the name Jason Tate with being in control. While Jason is the creator of AP (and a nice guy to chat with), none of what you see on a day-to-day basis would be possible without the efforts of Senior Editor Drew Beringer. He’s the guy that sits at SpinMedia HQ and represents Absolutepunk, and in a way the Absolutevoices group as well. He has been writing and networking throughout the music industry for years, and the insight he’s able to provide having now found full time work in writing is indispensable for the aspiring (or veteran) journalist.

After you read through Drew’s history and thoughts on the industry, drop by Absolutepunk and see what’s new in the world of alternative music. Also, be sure to Follow AP on Twitter and Like their official Facebook. Drew has a Twitter as well, so send him a note if you enjoy his interview.

H: For those unaware, please state your name, the site you work for, and your role at said site:

DB: Hey, I’m Drew Beringer and I’m the senior editor for AbsolutePunk.net. I basically have a hand in everything on the site, but I don’t want to take too much credit because we have an awesome staff that creates and writes amazing stuff.

H: What initially inspired you to get into music journalism, and how did that interest lead you to join the AbsolutePunk team?

DB: I’ll never call myself a journalist – I never took any writing or journalism classes in college (although I was an English major at one point and did a lot of writing for that). I’ve always been a very opinionated person and I love music so I just started writing my own “reviews” in a Xanga blog years ago. In the fall of 2005, Jason Tate (our CEO/Founder) put out a call for new reviewers on the site and I submitted a review of Emery’s “The Question” and about three days later, Jason IM’d me and asked me if I wanted to write for AP.net. It’s been a match made in heaven ever since.

H: Unlike many who write about music online, you actually work on AP.net as your full time job. How would you compare your daily routine from freelance days to now?

DB: The only difference is that I can dedicate all my time to AbsolutePunk.net now instead of just when I wasn’t working at whatever job I had at the time. And it’s a huge difference. I’m extremely fortunate and blessed to be paid to write about music and I never take it for granted. I’m able to do a podcast with Jason once or twice a week, write 3 reviews in a day and post a lot of news articles a day instead of only writing one review when I had time and sparingly posting news. It’s easier for me to put together new features and set up cool exclusives for the site. In my “old” life, I’d maybe have time to post some news in the morning before heading off to work and then whenever I got home that night I’d use whatever energy I had left to write a review or whatever. It’s an amazing feeling to just be able to use all my time to write and put together a lot of cool stuff for the site. My only wish is that more of our staff could have this freedom because they’re all very talented and if they could pool all their resources into the site, we’d be virtually unstoppable. It’ll happen eventually.

H: AbsolutePunk has changed a lot over the years, from starting as a purely punk site to expanding into movies, hip hop, and recently even comedy. Are these changes done to lure in more readers, or better cater to those you already have?

DB: Of course we want to lure in more readers and users with all our changes and features, but that’s only a small part of it. The reason I decided to expand into adding more hip-hop and comedy content is because our current (and may I add fantastic) users have shown a ton of interest in that in our forums. So basically a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. The community on AP.net is by far the best online community and a lot of these users bring new music, interests, whatever to the site daily in those forums. I read each forum obsessively and I want to cater our content to those who’ve been visiting the site for days, months, years. I want their voice and interests to also be represented on the front page of the site. I think our comedy content has been great so far and a lot of credit goes to Cody Nelson. He’s very knowledgeable about that scene and is bringing us great features and ideas daily. Since my hire in 2005, I’ve been trying to get hip-hop represented on the site. It’s been a struggle at times, but I think our user base has evolved with the times and are more open-minded to all genres and not just punk music anymore. There are still some obstacles but it’s overall been a great success. Jake Jenkins has done a wonderful job with his reviews and Keagan Ilvonen has always been into the genre too. And a lot of great hip-hop and comedy contributions and recommendations have come our community – I’d be wrong to not mention the stellar stuff I read in the forums from users like deadkidsean, williek311, Argentine, FondestMemory, phaynes1, Star Slight, Ari Christos, Holly Hox, and weworemasks, as well as past users like Fullcollapse3k, Skabum14, Love As Arson, and Trainsaw, amongst many others. It’s those members of our community who’ve made our hip-hop coverage a success and they continue to challenge us to create our best content. I’m also happy that I’m not the only staff member to carry that heavy load of reviewing and covering the genre along with all my other responsibilities.

H: AP is known for breaking bands who otherwise may never have a chance to shine. What do you look for when seeking new music, and where do you go to discover it?

DB: This is always the toughest question for me to answer because it varies on a case to case basis. It could be lyrics or vocals or the music or a combination of all three. There isn’t one particular element I look for when listening to new music – it just has to catch my attention in some way. For example, I love Dessa because her voice, flow, and lyrics are intoxicating. But I love the new Deafheaven album because the music is so devastating and enthralling. It’s never the same thing. I discover any and all music either from the hundreds of emails I get per day, my friends here in LA, and the forums on our site.

H: Let’s talk about when bands come to you. What do you look for in a pitch letter, and what advice would you offer those hoping to contact you about being featured on AP in the future?

DB: I don’t need a long pitch – just give me a brief summary of what you’re about, what you think you sound like, and your music. And if it catches my eye or ear – I’ll check it out. If I don’t get back to a band or review something – it doesn’t mean I hate you or the music, it just means I’m a super busy dude who gets hundreds of these queries a week. I may come back to it later in time and if I dig it, I do whatever I can to support it and promote it. I guess that’s horrible advice, but if you write good/great music, it’ll get the attention it deserves.

H: When it comes to receiving music for review and feature consideration, which services do you prefer and why?

DB: I prefer a watermarked (to keep be accountable of course) zip download with high quality mp3s. Now I don’t always get that, so I roll with what I get. Haulix is cool because you can download and stream and it has the capability of supplying high quality stuff if the label/PR people provide it. But really whatever gives me the highest quality music most efficiently will always be my preference.

H: If you could change one thing about the music industry, what would it be?

DB: Almost everything and I don’t anyone would want to read a lengthy essay from me about the topic. The internet is the wild west right for music (source: Jay-Z) right now and the way you get people to listen and support your music changes nearly every day. I do hate how the industry is punishing listeners and medium-to-smaller bands for the mistakes they made in the past. But it’s also an exciting time for the music industry in that we don’t know what’s coming next and that many artists (big and small) are proving that you don’t need a label to be successful.

H: You tweet a lot about having big plans for the future. Before we let you go, can you tell us a bit about what you have planned for the future?

DB: Just that you’ll always get high-quality and honest editorials, features, and opinions from AbsolutePunk.net. We’re very transparent with all our intentions and we’re music fans just like everyone else who visits the site. The long-awaited AP.net 3.0 is in development and it’s going to wow a lot of people. We have so many talented writers – whether it’s veterans like Thomas Nassiff, Alex DiVicenzo, and Christian Wagner or rookies like Kelly Doherty, Chris Collum, and Craig Manning – bringing forward new ideas and content daily. It just blows my mind. I seen staff members like Ryan Gardner and Dre Okorley rise up and lead new features and it’s so awesome. It’s those guys along with the rest of the staff that makes the future of AbsolutePunk.net so exciting. It’s their hard work and talent that makes guys like me look so smart and our site the best.

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