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Inside Music Podcast #149: Demon Hunter (Ryan Clark)

Demon Hunter frontman Ryan Clark discusses music, art, and maintaining fan engagement without exhausting yourself on our latest podcast.

The number of metal bands who existed at the dawn of the millennium that continue to succeed today is smaller with each passing year. Blame it on changing trends or evolving tastes, it seems maintaining a career in the heavier career of music is a tricky proposition that only a select few ever achieve. Demon Hunter is one of the lucky ones, and today we’re going to talk about how they survived while others fell to the wayside.

Long before Patreon became the most popular way to support artists on a monthly basis, Demon Hunter was running a digital fan club. That service is still in existence today, and as Vocalist Ryan Clark explains during our latest podcast, it has played a significant role in keeping the band relevant. Demon Hunter does not tour as often as many of their peers, nor do they release new music on the standard 12-18 month album cycle. The band does what they want, when they want, and their fans support them every step of the way. 

Inside Music has always focused on the business of music and how it impacts the lives of those who commit to making a career in it, but this episode feels special. Clark and his bandmates in Demon Hunter have found a way to break from the norm while maintaining a large following that has backed the group for nearly two decades. He doesn’t reveal all the secrets to that success during our chat, but he offers enough to help others struggling to build a community out of their following get further ahead. Check it out:

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Demon Hunter will release two new albums, War and Peace, this March through Solid State Records. You can stream the group’s latest material below:

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Why more musicians need their own podcast

With a growing global audience and low startup costs, podcasts are the next step in digital marketing and fan engagement.

Did you know that 50% of all US homes are podcast fans? How about the fact that over 44% of the entire US population, or roughly 124 million people, listened to podcasts over the last twelve months?

On a global scale, more than one in four residents of Japan, France, Canada, Italy, the United States, Australia, Sweden, and Spain listen to podcasts monthly. In South Korea, more than half of the entire population (58%) listens to podcasts on a monthly is.

These figures and other available online are growing with each passing month. Podcasts were practically unknown a decade ago, but today there are more than 500,000 shows offering millions of hours of entertainment for listeners. Studies show the average podcast fan commits to six or seven shows each week, and most (80%) listen to each episode in full. Podcast listeners are, on average, smart and loyal listeners who actively support the shows they enjoy through either digital promotion, crowdfunding, or engagement with sponsors who make their favorite programs possible.

All this data is impressive, but what is even crazier is how few musicians have decided to engage their fans through podcasts.

A podcast can be anything you want. Some choose to interview people they find interesting, while others stick to a theme or subject. Pop-punk band Waterparks host a series where they read fan fiction about their group. The possibilities are endless!

The perks of having a podcast are numerous, including:

  • Direct engagement with fans
  • Ability to deliver new content to fans regularly
  • A promotional vehicle for tours, albums, and anything else
  • Creates future promotional material (you can share clips on your social media)
  • Allows fans to know you better (they don’t have to stalk you, they just have to listen)
  • Provides a platform to discuss and dissect your art
  • Potential to create new fans for your music through conversation
  • Fill time while at home or on the road that is otherwise spent scrolling social media or staring out the window
  • Potential for extra income, either through fans buying merchandise or sponsors getting behind the show

Podcasts are also incredibly cheap to create. Many shows are recorded using a smartphone voice memo app, but others use the same microphones artists use to create demos in their home studios. Hosting is available through a number of providers, including several that have offers for free hosting to first-time users, as well as free distribution to major platforms such as Apple Podcasts and Stitcher.

Furthermore, with Spotify’s recent acquisition of Gimlet Media and Anchor the streaming giant — who already has a large stake in podcasting — is planning to promote podcasts heavily in the months and years to come. Artists with shows will not only be able to promote their music and vice versa through a single platform, but they will also be able to earn streaming royalties from their podcast. That’s money which, unless otherwise agreed to in a contract, goes directly to the artist behind the show. It’s a side hustle that helps the main focus of an artist’s career in many ways.

Competition is music is growing fiercer by the day, and most acts use the same tricks as every other artist or business or consumer to build their audience. But right now, for what will likely be a very short window of time, there is a market for musicians willing to open up in podcasting that is largely overlooked. Any artist would be foolish to not take advantage of this opportunity. Podcasting offers a chance to grow closer to fans, build an audience, and earn a few extra bucks. What more could you want?

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Inside Music Podcast #147: Jetty Bones (Kelc Galluzzo)

Ohio’s Jetty Bones are poised for stardom in 2019.

When was the last time a concert changed your life? We’re not talking about those instances where your favorite band puts on a performance that reaffirms your faith in them, but those far more rare occasions where a group or artist unknown to you steals the show.

For us, the last incredible moment like that we experienced happened during March 2018 at The Loft in Lansing, Michigan. We traveled to Michigan’s capitol city to see Hot Mulligan perform one of their Pilot release shows, but we walked as the latest fans of Ohio’s Jetty Bones. The band’s set that evening, as well as the numerous sets we’ve seen since, showcased a group ready to take the world by storm with painfully honest lyricism and a powerhouse sound.

On this episode of Inside Music, host James Shotwell calls Kelc Galluzzo from the band Jetty Bones to discuss her group’s upcoming EP. Jetty Bones has been a rising talent in the alternative underground for the past several years, but their forthcoming release has the band poised to breakthrough to the mainstream with heart and hooks to spare. Kelc tells James about the traumatic experiences that informed the record, as well as the goals she has for her music. The pair also discusses musical Easter eggs, cats, and life in rural Ohio.

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Inside Music Podcast #140: FiXT Records

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell chats with FiXT Records co-founder James Rhodes about his label’s big plans for 2019. Rhodes talks about the FiXT approach to finding and recruiting talent, as well as the role FiXT plays in developing talent during an age when many argue record labels are no longer necessary. The discussion continues with talk of social media tactics, the benefits of multi-album deals versus single releases, and what trends we expect to see in the business as the year carries on.

In other news, Inside Music is now available on YouTube! Click here to stream the latest episode on our official channel. You can also subscribe to the show on iTunes, as well as any other podcast streaming service.

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Inside Music Podcast #139: Born of Osiris (Lee McKinney)

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell calls Lee McKinney from Born of Osiris to discuss his group’s upcoming album, The Simulation (out January 11). Lee tells James about the long road to the album’s release, as well as how the group found the themes that run throughout the record. Lee also details how Born Of Osiris has continued to thrive in an era when many claim rock is dead and offers insight into what the future may hold.

In other news, Inside Music is now available on YouTube! Click here to stream the latest episode on our official channel. You can also subscribe to the show on iTunes, as well as any other podcast streaming service.

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Inside Music Podcast #138: Palisades (Lou Miceli)

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell chats with Lou Miceli of Palisades about his band’s forthcoming album, Erase The Pain. Palisades has been steadily building a fervent following in alternative music over the last half-decade, but the group appears poised for far more significant things in 2019 thanks in part to this upcoming release. Lou tells James about the band’s approach to songwriting, partnering with Howard Benson, and what followers can expect in the new year.

In other news, Inside Music is now available on YouTube! Click here to stream the latest episode on our official channel. You can also subscribe to the show on iTunes, as well as any other podcast streaming service.

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Inside Music Podcast #137: Goin’ DIY with Connor Skelly

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell calls Beyond The Music founder Connor Skelly to discuss DIY with a catch. Instead of discussing bands finding success outside the traditional music business system, James and Connor chat about professionals who take their careers into their own hands and start something themselves. Connor recently quit his job with this very goal in mind, and though he’s only been at a few weeks he’s already seen some amazing results. Connor tells James of the trials he faced when trying to start something new and even offers advice to those hoping to follow in his footsteps.

In other news, Inside Music is now available on YouTube! Click here to stream the latest episode on our official channel. You can also subscribe to the show on iTunes, as well as any other podcast streaming service.

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Inside Music Podcast #133: Greek Fire

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell calls Phillip ‘Moon’ Sneed to discuss the return of his band Greek Fire, as well as the state of rock music in general.

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Inside Music #133: MOD SUN Returns!

On this episode of Inside Music, host James Shotwell crosses paths with returning guest MOD SUN during his Smile Machine tour stop in Grand Rapids, MI. Together, the two friends discuss their latest activities in the back of a tour bus. MOD SUN explains how his seemingly quiet year has actually been his busiest, and also offers insight into his evolving creative process.

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Inside Music #132: Hot Mulligan

On this episode of INSIDE MUSIC, host James Shotwell sits down with Hot Mulligan guitarist Chris Freeman to discuss his band’s not-so-overnight success. Chris recounts the rise of his band from the early days to present, as well as some insight into what the future might hold.

If you have yet to hear Hot Mulligan’s debut album, Pilot, we highly recommend you do so as soon as possible. The eleven-song LP is available now through No Sleep Records.

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